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		<title>By: Mark Cunningham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Cunningham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 10:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;&lt;a href=&#039;http://how-to-game-master.wordpress.com&#039; rel=&#039;external nofollow&#039; class=&#039;url&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dungeon Guide&lt;/a&gt; said:&lt;/cite&gt;
You&#039;re making a lot of sense.
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Thank you - though I did rant a bit.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I personally rather like exalted, but then I love anime and oriental culture, so . . .&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Exalted just doesn&#039;t pull me. But I do enjoy anime/manga, but personally I didn&#039;t find any of the elements of manga or anime that I was expected within the setting, except for some salutes or nods to it (like the artwork, use of dragon symbols or martial arts). 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Most of the games I&#039;ve run have been with players that aren&#039;t driven, and don&#039;t drive the game, so it&#039;s fallen on me to create situations to make them do stuff. &lt;em&gt;That was who their characters were.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

My group has an odd mix of players and it really depends on which of us is GMing and the game we&#039;re playing. At least for our current game, we&#039;re letting the plot drive us.

&lt;blockquote&gt;If you are playing your character realistically, and it isn&#039;t realistic for your character to be building a power base, the GM has to work with you. It is the GMs responsibility to keep all the characters involved, and all the players engaged.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Agreed, but it&#039;s hard to tell a GM this, because most of the time, their your friend too and they can take it as a personal criticism.</description>
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<blockquote><cite><a href='http://how-to-game-master.wordpress.com' rel='external nofollow' class='url' rel="nofollow">Dungeon Guide</a> said:</cite><br />
You&#8217;re making a lot of sense.
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<p>Thank you &#8211; though I did rant a bit.</p>
<blockquote><p>I personally rather like exalted, but then I love anime and oriental culture, so . . .</p></blockquote>
<p>Exalted just doesn&#8217;t pull me. But I do enjoy anime/manga, but personally I didn&#8217;t find any of the elements of manga or anime that I was expected within the setting, except for some salutes or nods to it (like the artwork, use of dragon symbols or martial arts). </p>
<blockquote><p>Most of the games I&#8217;ve run have been with players that aren&#8217;t driven, and don&#8217;t drive the game, so it&#8217;s fallen on me to create situations to make them do stuff. <em>That was who their characters were.</em></p></blockquote>
<p>My group has an odd mix of players and it really depends on which of us is GMing and the game we&#8217;re playing. At least for our current game, we&#8217;re letting the plot drive us.</p>
<blockquote><p>If you are playing your character realistically, and it isn&#8217;t realistic for your character to be building a power base, the GM has to work with you. It is the GMs responsibility to keep all the characters involved, and all the players engaged.</p></blockquote>
<p>Agreed, but it&#8217;s hard to tell a GM this, because most of the time, their your friend too and they can take it as a personal criticism.<br />
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		<title>By: Dungeon Guide</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dungeon Guide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re making a lot of sense. I personally rather like exalted, but then I love anime and oriental culture, so . . . 

However, it doesn&#039;t make sense for the GM to complain about lack of character background and at the same time ignore yours, and missing games is not a good reason to be sidelined unless the player is rude and doesn&#039;t have a reason.

Most of the games I&#039;ve run have been with players that aren&#039;t driven, and don&#039;t drive the game, so it&#039;s fallen on me to create situations to make them do stuff. &lt;em&gt;That was who their characters were.&lt;/em&gt;

If you are playing your character realistically, and it isn&#039;t realistic for your character to be building a power base, the GM has to work with you. It is the GMs responsibility to keep all the characters involved, and all the players engaged.

I could go on a lot longer, but I think I&#039;ve made my point. You&#039;re making lots of sense.</description>
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<p>You&#8217;re making a lot of sense. I personally rather like exalted, but then I love anime and oriental culture, so . . . </p>
<p>However, it doesn&#8217;t make sense for the GM to complain about lack of character background and at the same time ignore yours, and missing games is not a good reason to be sidelined unless the player is rude and doesn&#8217;t have a reason.</p>
<p>Most of the games I&#8217;ve run have been with players that aren&#8217;t driven, and don&#8217;t drive the game, so it&#8217;s fallen on me to create situations to make them do stuff. <em>That was who their characters were.</em></p>
<p>If you are playing your character realistically, and it isn&#8217;t realistic for your character to be building a power base, the GM has to work with you. It is the GMs responsibility to keep all the characters involved, and all the players engaged.</p>
<p>I could go on a lot longer, but I think I&#8217;ve made my point. You&#8217;re making lots of sense.<br />
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 21:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t played Exalted in several months now, since we had our second baby. But one of the other players were telling me that originally &quot;Exalted&quot; was meant to be jsut Dragon Blooded but it was all changed at the last minute. I don&#039;t if there is any truth in that myth at all, but it sounds compelling. 

As for the background providing insight... it&#039;s not for me. I&#039;d rather players tell me what they want to get out of a game then reading a 15 page story that has little bearing on the character they&#039;ll play once they start interacting with the other PCs and the world I&#039;ll have created. 

I shouldn&#039;t be so hard on Exalted tbh because I seem to have developed a bitter taste with any/all White Wolf games and resent ending up actually playing any of their games. There is so much new good stuff out there, I dislike labouring with their systems and out-dated concepts of gaming. I&#039;m not saying it&#039;s bad, I just don&#039;t like it. Sorry.</description>
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<p>I haven&#8217;t played Exalted in several months now, since we had our second baby. But one of the other players were telling me that originally &#8220;Exalted&#8221; was meant to be jsut Dragon Blooded but it was all changed at the last minute. I don&#8217;t if there is any truth in that myth at all, but it sounds compelling. </p>
<p>As for the background providing insight&#8230; it&#8217;s not for me. I&#8217;d rather players tell me what they want to get out of a game then reading a 15 page story that has little bearing on the character they&#8217;ll play once they start interacting with the other PCs and the world I&#8217;ll have created. </p>
<p>I shouldn&#8217;t be so hard on Exalted tbh because I seem to have developed a bitter taste with any/all White Wolf games and resent ending up actually playing any of their games. There is so much new good stuff out there, I dislike labouring with their systems and out-dated concepts of gaming. I&#8217;m not saying it&#8217;s bad, I just don&#8217;t like it. Sorry.<br />
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		<title>By: Zar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 18:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>( Also, there&#039;s another reason why the GM wants backgrounds, the reason I use:

I like reading it. It gives -me- insight into their character, and I like the thought that goes into it from the player&#039;s side. It&#039;s good reading, most of the time. It&#039;s like art. :)</description>
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<p>( Also, there&#8217;s another reason why the GM wants backgrounds, the reason I use:</p>
<p>I like reading it. It gives -me- insight into their character, and I like the thought that goes into it from the player&#8217;s side. It&#8217;s good reading, most of the time. It&#8217;s like art. <img src='http://thedeadone.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
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		<title>By: Zar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 17:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I realize this is a very old and dead post, but I just figured I&#039;d say that I&#039;m an Exalted GM and I agree with you about many things. But, one of the major things.. It&#039;s not &quot;Exalted&quot; that means you have to do that power-up. Just play Exalted: Dragon Blooded and you do everything in the open, you&#039;re even celebrated for it. We only play Dragon Blooded, basically. heh :)</description>
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<p>I realize this is a very old and dead post, but I just figured I&#8217;d say that I&#8217;m an Exalted GM and I agree with you about many things. But, one of the major things.. It&#8217;s not &#8220;Exalted&#8221; that means you have to do that power-up. Just play Exalted: Dragon Blooded and you do everything in the open, you&#8217;re even celebrated for it. We only play Dragon Blooded, basically. heh <img src='http://thedeadone.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
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