adam said:
Why the change? It would appear that the moderation windows have been ‘updated’ to the nearly unusable method of hiding information from the user unless specifically asked for.

Mostly because of the new editing functionality. I wanted to have both the last edit information and submission information in the same moderation queue/table. The link scheme for submitted, had to be extended to support editing. So I unified it and now it’s easily extendable, hence the change in URL scheme.

I don’t have time to worry about UI design, so I always take the latest WordPress look and feel when appropriate. That’s why I followed WordPress scheme, which isn’t going to change much in the upcoming 2.8. I’m sorry you don’t like it.

The second thing is I wanted to add new functionality to the moderation screen. I’ve only added the updated paging scheme (which I’m half-liking, I may add an option to let users choose how many items to show on a page) and displaying an excerpt of the submitted/edited post (which I do find useful). But I plan to add filtering by form and possible a few other bits. And restore others like re-check spam and delete all spam buttons.

Is there an option to turn the hide data off? I hated it when the WP people went against popular opinion and put it in the post edit screens, and I hate it here.

You mean the disappearing/reappearing links? I could probably stick an option in. Didn’t think that would be an issue.

On top of that, the lines now take up about 3x the space that the moderation queue took up before. It’s nearly unreadable the way it is now

Yes and it also has 3x times the information. It has the name of the form, date of submission and IP info. The edit column also contains similar information for the last edit. However I don’t think it’d work if I gave each field a seperate column and it’d look pretty confusing with a mix of editing and submitting columns. I can’t add an option to, on one hand, show “hidden” information and on the other hide existing displayed information. I’ll see if I can find some funky JS to do some magic (perhaps a re-ordable columns with select menu maybe), but it’s not high on my priorities.

I would love to see you please put it back, it was easier to read, easier to find the links to click, and didn’t require me to wave my mouse over the entire screen just to see what’s been hidden from me.

I apologize about be abrupt here, it was just a shock to see the regression

That’s a big problem. While doing the editing functionality, I had to do it on a branch and it was impossible to sync up the old scheme and new one. Too much other stuff had changed (and still needs to be changed).

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FYI: I’m updating the general options page and I’ve added a option to “disable auto-hide on moderation screen”, so you can optionally have all the links visible.

When I get around to the moderation screen again, I’ll add a third “view” option to display the data “flat” as in one row and many columns and I’ll probably add a dropdown to select how many to show per page (ex. 15, 30, 100, all)

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I’m sorry you don’t like it.

well dammit you’re here to make me personally happy aren’t you!?

Yes and it also has 3x times the information. It has the name of the form, date of submission and IP info.

that’s understood, though the IP info is on the previous version that I’m still using on my main site. Also, I might be wrong but are there many people using multiple submission forms on their site? What would the purpose of that be, I’m sure there’s perfectly good reasons, I’m just coming up blank. Right now there’s just a lot of dead space in the queue:
http://imageleech.net/details.php?image_id=1400
as opposed to the old one:
http://imageleech.net/details.php?image_id=1401
IMHO you could leave out the post ID, I never have found a use for that on a daily basis

You mean the disappearing/reappearing links? I could probably stick an option in. Didn’t think that would be an issue.

yes, that’s exactly what I was referring to. it was a huge kerfluffle when they added that ‘feature’ in there. Perhaps it’s because I’m not running a quadcore with 8gigs of ram, but I have to wait a solid 1/2 second to a full second before the hidden div shows up, and sometimes it has different information, which is something that I just noticed on the latest version. the most top submission doesn’t have a ‘queue post’ option, only a publish one. all the posts under it seem to have the different/correct links under them.
here’s a screen shot of it:
http://imageleech.net/details.php?image_id=1400

Mark Cunningham
Administrator
June 8th, 2009 at 5:23 pm

FYI: I’m updating the general options page and I’ve added a option to “disable auto-hide on moderation screen”, so you can optionally have all the links visible.

When I get around to the moderation screen again, I’ll add a third “view” option to display the data “flat” as in one row and many columns and I’ll probably add a dropdown to select how many to show per page (ex. 15, 30, 100, all)

I love you so much but seriously, ‘most recent edit’ and ‘status’ take up half my screen (see screen shots above). is this intended?

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adam said:

Yes and it also has 3x times the information. It has the name of the form, date of submission and IP info.

that’s understood, though the IP info is on the previous version that I’m still using on my main site. Also, I might be wrong but are there many people using multiple submission forms on their site? What would the purpose of that be, I’m sure there’s perfectly good reasons, I’m just coming up blank.

The sites I’ve deployed TDO Mini Forms on have multiple forms. This forum has multiple different forms and when you get to editing forms, I can imagine many cases where you would use different forms (using a “custom field” to flag a post as “solved” by the author would ba different form to updating the post you just submitted).

IMHO you could leave out the post ID, I never have found a use for that on a daily basis

Actually, I like having the post id! It bugs the hell out of me when I need to find it… similar to category ids. Why are they always hidden?

yes, that’s exactly what I was referring to. it was a huge kerfluffle when they added that ‘feature’ in there. Perhaps it’s because I’m not running a quadcore with 8gigs of ram, but I have to wait a solid 1/2 second to a full second before the hidden div shows up, and…

Option is there now in 0.13.2 to always show it. I was unaware of the “kerfluffle” to be honest.

…sometimes it has different information, which is something that I just noticed on the latest version. the most top submission doesn’t have a ‘queue post’ option, only a publish one. all the posts under it seem to have the different/correct links under them.

That *should* be fixed. It was a small bug in the moderation screen.

I love you so much but seriously, ‘most recent edit’ and ‘status’ take up half my screen (see screen shots above). is this intended?

It’s how the wordpress admin CSS lays it out, I’m afraid. I was planning to work my way through the remaining changes for editing and get back to the moderation screen again, I hadn’t completely finished the editing functionality. But I thought I didn’t want to work in the dark on it for ages and stop doing bug fixes.

There are tons of things I could do there. If there are no editing forms in the system, the column could be hidden (and likewise for submitting forms), the flat view would list submissions and individual edits, not just the last edit, etc. Personally I want to add filters for specific forms, submissions/edits from specific users or IPs, etc.

There is one nice thing about wordpress 2.8 though, the code syntax highlighting, which I’m going to add to the Form Hacker and any of the widgets that use it. That’s a nice addition.

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